I intend (hopefully starting in Jan) to be offering a regular p4/pp version of all the PW stuff I make, but also a P6 shader set. There are many very cool things I could do with the nodes in the cloth room ... but right now my hardware is too old to make running p5/6 anything but pure tedium. A pp compatible base and optional p6 libraries should cover both crowds, hopefully. And for that matter once I can make the complete switch over (instead of having 2 runtimes and BOY is that a mess) then I can start to develop the environmental p6 textures my users have been clamoring for. Lyrra