I remember getting a rebate for V3 when they kicked her down for free, which I thought was pretty great for folks who might not have had the money to buy her. I happen to like all of the Daz characters, and I also buy a lot of morphed characters. I use the default V3 and I don't find her to be shapeless. I challenge anyone to walk downtown today and point out, with the exception of twins or triplets etc. two women who look perfect or who are exactly the same. What is the perfect shape? Is it V3? GND? One of wyyrmaster's morphs? (sorry if I didn't get that name spelled correctly). Is it one of Thorne's characters? See I bought all of those morphs because I like variety, and so do my clients. If I only used one character I would soon be out of business. I have one client who absolutely loves V3 and another who almost fell out of her chair when I showed her GND. If we all had the same idea of what makes a beautiful woman or handsome man it would be a pretty boring world. Marque And I sign my name at the end out of courtesy and habit.