To me the ultimate male figure remains Mike2*(pictured here)* has has free options to enlarge his hands to get rid of that ***"Dainty hand"*** look that plagues all poser males IMHO. and his physique also is far Superior to M3 as M3 shoulders Look like pulled taffy and his so called muscle morphs are a cruel joke at best ;-) As for Apollo max I Agree the base figure has a puffy smooth faced appearance so i can only reccomend him along with the "morpheus maximus" package also sold over at RDNA and Apollo,like Mike2, Does **NOT** use the ponderous **INJ/REM/CHAN/VIS/DELTA** BULLSH*T of the DAZ unimess clones that require the presence of 800+support files to have a fully functional figure.

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