Thanks Xena, I'll see what I can do. Here is another render comparing with the Yann hair... Yann hair: 24509 polys...outch! New hair: 11934 polys only!And it renders perfectly in all versions of poser;) The look is more realistic too!Interesting to see the difference between a 3 years old hair file huh??hehe I still like my Yann too though, it's different;)