Since the topic seems to have turned to an apollo discussion, I would like to say that I think it is far far far too early to discuss if apollo is a success or a failure. He hasnt even been out for a year yet. It takes a while for people to be comfortable with "new"toys. I have had poser6 since it came out, but I still do most of my development in Poserpro, just because I am familiar with it. The same will be true for figures as well. If you want the figure to grow in popularity, that will happen by steady support and growth. I have supported him since he came out, because we all know this market needs a variety of quality figures with different looks. I am sure with apollo that the complaints of the figure only having one looks will easily fade away over time as people become more familiar with how to use the figure. So taking complaints like that to heart is silly. Apollo can provide quite a number of looks and if anyone complains, that is more a reflection on that particular artists skill in using the figure and not a reflection of the figure itself. This is the same for the Micheals as well...many people are content with using them as they are out of the can...but others take time to make something unique out of them. Apollo will grow the same way. I think one thing that people miss with apollo is the female counterpart. If there was a dedicated counterpart, it will go a long way to ensure that Apollo is not a "flash in the pan" figure who will fade away. This will also bolster his support. Its a geometrical growth. I can appreciate the amount of work that goes into figure creation. But I think what has to be looked at seriously now is what it will take to make this series grow, and while clothing support is good, an additional cast would definatly make the series more solid and they will build a solid place in the community. Plus....apollo has had alot of support from some pretty big names in the community, so to say it is not supported well is a bit of an insult. For some of the bigger names to take a risk with a new figure, shows that there is no lack of interest. (my 2) Rawn Rawn