Alright, thanks to SBertram for helping me on the phone, I have isolated the problem, on our front page some of the thumbnails were png's but IE was thinking they were jpegs. It should all be straightened out now along with anyone who whould get Acrobat starting when you visited the front page. Chris: For you problems which login link do you use? can you IM me/post your exact work flow. Step by step, which links you press (and where on the page they are) so I can see if I can find your problem. -Rylan