Im not really sure why people make so much of Apollo being fat and dumpy. Most of us dont like any figure in there default state, which is why we spend money on character/morph packs. Apollo is easy to make tall and skinny using his included morphs and ADS scaling and his face has enough morphs to get rid of the chubby look and as Poser and Daz both have magnets of one form or another its easy enough to make his face and body any shape desired. Attached imaged used Apollos included morphs for the body and face with one magnet to square his face, it only took a couple of minutes to turn him skinny and there are already add on morph packs that will do it for you in one click. I dont prefer one dress up dolly over another, they all have good and bad points but it doesnt take much to make them into something we find attractive or interesting to look at.