Sorry... there are no good tunics for Vicki and Michael (dammit!) which prevents me from really using them in my fantasy renders. I tend to use Michael/Poser4Dude hybrid which allows me to use the superior face mapping of Miachel and the universal body (universal for clothes that is) of P4 Dork. I have written to Daz3d (the firm formerly known as Prince..er... I mean Zygote) and they said "Yeah... good idea" but so far, nada. I wish ALOT of stuff would be converted to Michael: Zygote Tunic Pack PhilC armor (hint, hint) Morphing Man's Robes & Gladiator stuff (hint, hint) Captain America Boots/Gloves from 3D-CC (I'll even buy you Michael!) =) And of course, nearly everything on Poserworld! =)