ernyoka1, Thanks for the reply, I have tried Jessie and James and have had the same things happen. I reloaded poser6 with all the updates and reloaded the python. I have been running the python using the loader thingie. I will try to load James Casual and see what happens. I checked the forum and found that some poeple are having this happen to them ....sometimes. It's bound to be something I am missing because the pre made ones work just fine. ( the sample files) skee the lost

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