Ravynsworld, Thanks very much indeed, very easy to understand and not in the least confusing. I'm saving this page for later use. Brill! lundqvist, I'm fairly sure that's just what I did, so that's okay (not sure what 'faux shading' is anyway) But yes, on the Bryce mat properties, that's what I intend. As for bump - I was thinking of about 1.6.... okay? Thanks to all; lundqvist, tantarus & Ravynsworld for all your efforts to help me with this, much appreciated. Fran

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