Sorry about that, Phil! ;-) After I take the kid to school, I will fire up Poser, turn off the zones and take another screen shot. I converted it using the tutorial on Phil's site (the one with the cheongsam and Staci). I think it was Unwelded, Ungrouped (?) So are you saying I should do the "convert to" again on the coat that I just converted? (the one in my scene) or convert the SP3 version again, only using normal "convert to"? When I tried the regular "convert to" the first time, most of the coat disappeared, except for one section in the hip area. I'm sure this is an area everyone pulls their hair out on. I've looked at various tutorials on joint parameters, and I STILL don't really get it.