Phil as for the learnig curve for beyce i can honestly tell you that for someone with no 3D experience Bryce is one of the easiest programs to learn. I have been using it now for over 12 months and there is still things i haven't learnt to do with it yet but i can now say i at least no how to use the program. If you want to see how far i have come with it, being a learner myself just click on my name and then look in my gallery..i admit i'm no great artist ;)

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