I do understand and agree with the points made concerning the owners right to establish sensible limits in a forum. But the spirit of free and open discussion was my point; not a literal legal issue. I always view the internet as an extension of Freedom of the Press, so maybe a software brand agnostic editorial page would be a good addition for the Renderosity web site, to allow for some civil mud wrestling? I also (honestly) do appreciate Agiel's difficult position, but you see, I was captivated by the feature list of V5I -- as were many folks. I know it can work well in many cases, but it seems to fail me when I need it the most!

I had been a Bryce user on a hobby level for years, and went to e-on because it promised professional results. Bryce was (is?) going nowhere. About a year & a half ago I even wrote Corel a letter opining that they should either sell-off Bryce, or do it justice with a real revision. Im targeting hanging my artwork in a Santa Fe, NM art gallery, and V5I was central to this goal. I believe this goal has been significantly stretched-out in time due toI poured a lot of time into learning V5I & work-arounds!

I was a computer hardware technician in the late 1970s. I worked in the Apollo lunar mission, and worked as an instrumentation tech/engineer for about 30 years. I've been using computers & software from the SW6800/DEC PDP-LSI-11 days. I recently worked for Lockheed Martin Information Technology for 5 years as an IT worker. I likely have a differing perspective on software/hardware quality expectations than most do?

So, Ill just skulk away from this forum, and e-on I do feel more comfortable in an environment where simply getting things done is the challenge. I do like the Pink Lake challenge though, and might revisit that idea shortly.

There are certainly many talented Vue users, good luck to all!

-LCB