GALVANIZED METAL!!!! THAT'S IT!!! I swear every day I'm losing my vocabulary! To get into the site take a bit of aim, unfortunately. Go back, and see the little bronze balls circling the big one? Hover your mouse over one of those and you'll see the links to whatever it goes to - one of them is tutorials. I know they were just looking for a cool way to do it, but it just ended up being a bit complicated. Well, at least I didn't disturb my wife in the middle of the night. I shall live another day - and so will my cats. -Lew ;-)