CrazyDawg, Oh yes, I knew the bottom number was to do with animation, that's why I didn't mention it. Thanks for the gen from the horse's mouth on this. This render started off saying 1 day, 4 hours, 51 minutes, 2 seconds, but actually that first pass took 27 mins 31 secs... and subsequent passes were faster than I expected from that first estimate... but the darned thing REALLY slowed down on anti-aliasing... so at 3am last night... morning? I stopped it . Only starting it again at 11 something when I finally got up this morning... afternoon? it's saying 3% now, since about half eleven... it's now 12:15... gonna take a while... gee! I just hope it's worth it when it finally finishes... This is a different angle to the ten passes and still going original... I got fed up with staring at the darned thing... began to see odd things in it, like I'm sure there was a doggy's nose in the middle somewhere.. So, changed the angle, and now I'm not sure if it's any good or just plain weird.

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