Bushi, if you export a image from Poser as tif and then open in another program such as PS, go to the Alpha chanel it will give you the marching ants around the bottle and not the background...then you can copy & paste just the bottle somewhere else...that's what I mean by "Off the background" Joe, thanks, I found where I can use a solid white or gray background in Bryce but I sill haven't found how to export the image with the alpha channel...that's just what I need and haven't found anyone yet to tell me how....:>) sorry to be such a pain, but I'm sooo new at 3D. Marque, rendering in Poser with transparency is ok, but far from the quality of glass you can get in Bryce....:>)