NOT knocking Bryce here, but this is how it looks rendered in Bryce 4. Just like in Vue 3, I did nothing to this pic other than load the model, and set the lights, and render it. Vue seems to have handled the default settings on at least the propeller better. :) Oh and yes, I agree--- walking into a prop WOULD ruin one's day! Every year they have this massive WW II airshow in Kissimmee Fla--- afew years ago I went to it with my Mom and step-dad--- had a blast, I tell you--- i mean, I saw more cool planes that day than ever before at any on place at any one time---real, genuine aircraft, and all still working! I thought one of the coolest things was those pinups that the pilots would have airbrushed o the nose---and of course, their kill record too, was pretty interesting. Of course, it's a pretty morbid subject, from a bad time in history, but interesting nonetheless.