Arcady, I have both Hexagon and Carrara, and for my money I'd go with Carrara (I bought Hexagon literally day sbefore the upgrade was announced!). Hex is a great modeller, but Carrara gives you a LOT more versatility that I'm in the process of learning. I can forsee a time when Poser may wind up just gathering dust on the hard drive. The Poseing tools in Carrara ( Native DAZ model input with bones, morphing and deforming, plus native modelling) are very close to passing up and the terrain modelling etc is already far and away past Poser. And, as said above, the rendering engine is a dream compared to Firefly. As soon as I get the full Upgrade (sigh!!! waiting... waiting...) I'll work out some tuts. There are enough changes that I might as well start fresh. I'd be using the BETA for everything now except for a couple of bugs that hurt the way I do things, (all were reported and sound like they were attended to.. I hope!) Otherwise I'd need to come up with work-arounds, so why bother 'til I see what the final version has. Oh, and if you can swing the pro version it already has Transposer so you could grab one of the great Carver's Guild plug-ins.I have my eye on "Any thing Goos" now since I suck at textureing on my own, I love proceural shaders. mike