"why aren't you using the obj file that the CR2 is referencing, which is by its very nature already grouped?" Because the .obj files have far too many points to work on. And if the model is grouped and you want to alter it where two parts connect you'd drive yourself crazy dealing with all of those connecting vertices. "There isn't anything wrong with autogroup. It does exactly what it was designed to do. It gets you about 3/4 of the way there and then you need to fix the rest. It is there so we don't need to start from scratch in our grouping." If that was true Anthony then I wouldn't have a problem with it. But the AutoGroup mangels my figures so badly that it would take longer to fix it than to cut it up by hand. Connecting two body parts making chest parts where the hip is. It makes a real mess. I can make named selections of the body parts inside C4D and use the RipTide plug-in so that I can edit the nurbs model and make the conversion process to Poser a bit faster so Making changes isn't such a chore. I just had to change my workflow and do more work in C4D. But the more work I do In C4D. The more I wonder why I'm using Poser at all. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong. Thanks for the suggestions.