Now you have a surface with chuks TAKEN OUT. Now have fun, play with settings to make the bumps less severe, yaddah, yaddah, yaddah. If this is going to be a wall inside a bulding or something, I usually set the Reflection to ZERO. BTW - the atmo is turned off, color set to black (instead of the default chroma-key blue), and the sun has been turned off. Should have mentioned this above I realize but hey, better late than never, huh? Hope this clears some things out. -Lew ;-)