I'll digest what you have to say. I don't mind pointed remarks and your suggestions about leading with the eyes are making me think. I haven't read your pages yet, but thanks for at least qualifying a little, otherwise your "shoulds" just get tossed over the side at once. Meanwhile, I've sent this clip to my render condo and am on to other sequences. Probably return to post-process it mid-week. ::::: Opera :::::