ooooooooh... a troublemaker eh? dunno about the focal length, but you wouldn't think so. (runs back to Poser to render same file just posted to make sure) CRIPES! Changed focal length from 110 to 35 and falloff zone moved somewhere else entirely. Question sounded preposterous (why would zooming the camera change the relationship between light and obj) but thats got to be the difference between the results we were getting. I believe you nailed it bloodsong. Thanks Mam! JKeller and Petercat, what length lens were you guys using in your renders? o.t. btw-can't get .zip's to work at stas.net and have to click everything else two or three times. Now even the .jpgs won't load. Grrrrrr! With the recent rash of TOS changes, anyone have current suggestions for freebie webspace still suitable for these forums? Thanks again .....bloodsong. (you realize of course that there is no suitably endearing diminutive form of "bloodsong")