WarriorDL, I'll be waiting in anticipation for the Michael trench coat. Timoteo1, you can go to Ghastly Software and get a long trench coat (called a Duster) for P4 male...he made it after a request from me as well as the P4 male catsuit also at his site. Liz Pope Dreamspinner Inc. (let's hear it for more cool male clothing!)