Yep... Lighting and textures are key... Drac's 'top render' is a good place to start - its essentially a light rig for simulated radiosity. There are others about: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~rodv/semidome/ ...and here's an explanation of how it works: http://www.afn.org/~afn07395/Radsimtut/radiosity.htm Garry