ek-art, Thanks for that it is a little better. But if possible I'd like it better still. I need to reduce the image KB a tiny bit though, as it must be under 512KB for uploading to the forum and the jpeg from the export to psd is 672KB... is there a way? Bryster, What Wizard? And what do you mean by "a single sharp pass"? I'm fed up with the umpteewumpty passes this darned render has had already, I don't think I could live through another one. Especially as nothing seems to change from pass to pass. Thanks pakled, but there's a sharpen in both Photo and Paint shops, although I'm a bit wary of using them as they can sometimes make it worse. ysvry, I don't save as jpeg in Bryce - only bmp. And I don't see any compression settings for higher than 12.

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