actually, i find this new mill baby interesting. i mean, for $5 i'll get it. but it doesn't look substantially better than the original mill baby to me. in fact, i'm really surprised at how unreal it looks. the cubed baby looks much more realistic and has been out now for what, more than a year? i've been waiting to see if daz would trump it, and well, they very much didn't. i've always felt that indie models didn't fail because of the "everyone loves supermodels" stuff people drag out each time indie figures come up, especially since just about all the (female) indie figures have been more stylized than v3 default. i think it's four things: realism, versatility, support and pricing. the indie figures that have beaten daz on any one of those points while maintaining a decent average on the other 3 seem to do fairly well (miki, apollo, ej, etc.). before this, i would have said that daz would always win on realism given the opportunity (because they have the resources). now i'm not sure. all i can say is that if i actually come to need a baby model, i'm still going to go cubed... that said, i think thorne's and sarsa's texture is nice (though the face morph made he/she/it look much older and perfect for fey-ing the baby). and i'm eagerly awaiting gareee's morph set.