Stahlratte -- A REAL little girl. Very good. As for magnets, my main reason for not using them when I don't have to is the immalleable zone. You can have a circle, a frisbee, or a lozenge. Most of the time, I need a rope. After working with Blacksmith, I doubt if I'll every use a magnet again for anything except the occasional peek-through. You know what would be great? The ability to declare an object to be a magnet and then have objects interact with it. Like parenting vertices rather than objects. M