Ok, that one worked just fine. Was able to get that page to load with no problems. When you mentioned java I went "Aha!" since sometimes the javascript seems to work fine and sometimes it doesn't with NS 7.1. For instance, the DAZ pages never redirect for me, I always have to click on the "click here" link after I login there. I think we've located the problem. Yay us! :) Bummer about the SSI deal. Go ahead and keep the java image changer thingie. I'll just make a note that I need to use IE for your site. Used to have to do that with the DAZ site too. Kate