Keith you are right on mark!! Tony, I followed the other thread and I feel I have to contribute to this one. Check out my gallery. My "Ikebana" series where I have used APO and PS. There are endless possiblities with the software out there. http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=DIANE603 Everyone is an artist on this site as far as I'm concerned. We all do what we do because it makes us feel good and hopefully other's will enjoy what we share with them. With all the troubles in the world today I feel this subject is just about worn out. Happy Holidays. Diane