That zs3d is too expensive for me but wow they look good. Stefyzz has the only really good "grandma" character I have seen anywhere. Totally on my list for next month. Those are some amazing textures there but I can only justify Grandma Francesca & Fiammetta on my budget... wow that is amazing stuff. And thank you guys for your input. I don't know that one can really go with only the buyer comments on a product that is going to cost a bit. Lucie, I do hope you give me the heads up here when you have some new images.