I do believe that Apophysis is a wonderful tool with which to create fractal art, and I use it, as well as UF, all the time. Sometimes I combine them, and sometimes not, but one thing I have noticed--for me, it's more difficult to come up with something really nice in Apo than it is in UF. I have to put out more effort, most of the time, to get an image I'm happy with in Apophysis, but when I do get one I really like, it's usually something that makes me sit up and go "Wow!". Art is so subjective--what one person thinks is fantastic, another person may see as just weird, or not worth looking at. Fractals are indeed odd things, and I've come to realize just how infinite they are, and how incredible this whole art form really is. The flames in Apophysis are, to me, something that you take and make art out of--when you first see them come up, after running the script, they're usually not much to look at--but then the artist takes them and turns them into a fractal art image--whether it's beautiful, or strange, or just something off-the-wall different. As someone else said, it's another tool in the toolbox. Each tool used to create fractal art has its place, just as each tool in painting or drawing, or any other art form has its place. The paint or charcoal isn't the art--the image you make out of it is. Same thing with flames and other mathematical formulas. The formulas aren't the art, but the images made from them are indeed art, no matter which formulas or algorithms you choose to use, flames or otherwise. And honestly, I love having so many tools available to me, to see just how many wonderful images are possible! It's a fractal world, and I love it!