Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Why do most asian characters NOT look asian?

Maxi_Rose opened this issue on Dec 20, 2005 ยท 66 posts


duanemoody posted Thu, 22 December 2005 at 7:43 PM

Attached Link: Original epicanthic fold morph for V1

(Eena above, not an Asian). This thread does my heart good. Back in the day, I did the first reasonably plausible epicanthic fold morph for V1/V2 (it's still in freestuff here).

The epicanthic fold is the result of a genetic mutation in Asians which makes a certain muscle/set of muscles weaker. Eyelids move in three dimensions and change their shape while moving in a way more akin to cloth draping than skeletal hinging, and Poser 4 just did not have the mojo to handle it.

The morph I built took a lot of magnets applied to specific polys and a lot of patience to come as close to a real fold that could open and close without passing through the eyeball. The reason I never did it for Posette was because I discovered the eyeblink morphs weren't symmetrical (no, really) and it wasn't worth my time.

As for the issue of slanting... I thought the same thing until a year ago when I was at the local McDonalds here in Flagstaff AZ. There was a counter girl there with deeply slanted eyes with the epicanthic fold, and it looked remarkable, not ugly. She didn't appear to be Hopi or Navajo, and I couldn't think of a polite way to ask.

As I've said before, you want accurate depictions of genetic diversity, don't expect it from a firm that exists in and apparently only hires from the state of Utah. Remember when we all said Michael 1's head was impossible?

Africa is a continent with enough racial types to make wars like the Hutus/Tutsis painfully real. Kenyans tend towards short, round faces with high browlines; Ethiopians look substantially different. Climatic adjustment, economic traffic, all these make a difference. Four morphs for V3 don't even come close. Add generations of American melting pot and it gets murkier. Richard Pryor on his first visit to Africa asked the locals which tribe he resembled the most; their answer was "Italian."

Watching Hi-5 on TLC, I could tell at a glance that Kimee was either Hawaiian or Filipino. She's both (her surname is Balmiero). During WWII there was a hullabaloo about the "obvious" differences between the Chinese and the Japanese which was as embarrassing as the Germans' racial math. Some differences are real, others aren't.

India is another example. Aishwarya Rai is gorgeous but she's clearly much more Asian/European looking than the average woman in the subcontinent.

Racial types are as subject to the Uncanny Valley as any other character design, only the negative reaction is experienced by a more focused group.