LOL - I just figured that if I wrote something long enough, folks would fall asleep and would all go back to making neato images... sheesh, it IS kinda long-winded, ain't it? Now you see why I'm so bad about answering IM's and e-mails - took most of the night to type all that stuff. I can't stop talking once I get started... of course you WERE present for the Gumbycat/Rykk gab-fest in Orlando last year so you know first hand what a motor-mouth I can be! :-) And you're right - there IS more to it than that. It's just convincing "lay" folks that it is. And myself - like I said, I'm pretty bummed with my stuff these days... Rick