Hi again Acadia. A word of warning re: hair. If the hair is parented/conformed to the figure, when you click on "collide against" the hair will be included. If the hair is short, then there's probably no problem. But if it is LONG, then there's a very good chance that it will intersect with the clothing (assuming you're using top-torso-covering clothing). My usual method is to do the simulation BEFORE adding any hair; then it can't get in the way, and can easily be added afterwards. Alternatively, you can re-enter the "collide-with" and remove the hair from the included bits. However, that sometimes creates a bit of a wait as Poser gets its act together.. Isn't Poser wonderful? Does everything you want, but in the wrong order:-)) Merry Xmas (if it's one of your festivals)... Cheers, Diolma