thanks svdl..I like the skirt..maybe better if it was a bit longer though..maybe I can ask him if it can be adjusted to a longer length..you have a good working knowledge of medieval warfare :) joe..thanks for the info..I will contact her ScotHarvest: I think that would be a good design for perhaps the castle soldiers..well soldierettes .. :) ernyoka1: I will check out Poserworld as well..but I think some of the best talent people are here at renderosity :) Thank you all so very much for your help..there will be lots of clothing designs I want to check out..as there will be other characters as well needing them