I've found with out exception in my trials that if you clothify a group that is "welded" to another in the CR2 file the vertices at the joint are automatically placed in the choreographed group, which is usually more than enough. Mind you I still believe it has to do with selecting the individual groups to clooide against. Also I think 60 frames is WAY more than necessary for this simulation. Some where between 15 and 30 should be more than enough

mike

Message edited on: 12/28/2005 13:08