Psst! Anton - that was a question, not a statement - thus my supposed accuracy wasn't at fault. ;) You might also find that I actually agree with you on the overall issue (but please, don't let me get in the way of your penchant for going all DQ on the studio audience - it's fun to watch. :D ) Oh, and tutes? I already wrote one tute this year, but...hopefully it should suffice. ;) ...now run along and behave yourself, or I'll build a 3rd-party plugin that lets Apollo's ERC ADC joint structure work in D|S. Now, where was I? Oh, yeah... Ach! Poppi m'dear! You're absolutely right! I forgot completely about Renda! (What ever happened to the promised re-make of that, anyhoo?) My thanks for the reminder. (no, seriously - I totally spaced that one for some odd reason). You (and Nat, and all the fine folks of this thread) have yourself a wonderful New Years' Eve - let's let Rendo perform their autopodiatric target practice in peace. /P