gdavis3d, Though you'll love the P4 features when you get it, in the mean time there are a couple of half steps that will allow you to more easily use P4 stuff in P3. There are two P3 nude female figures which have been remapped to accept maps created for P4. Ian Grey and I worked on them together but ended up with two different versions. Mine conforms (pretty closely) to the standard P4 mapping, and Grey's version had some repositioning of a few of the body parts for better detail, so still requires some tweaking of the maps. Grey's is at his Error Code 50 site but I don't think mine is still up. If interested I'll dig it out. Also, to get P4 .CR2's and PZ3's to open in P3 without getting that pesky "Geometry file not found" stuff, try just substituting your P3 .OBJ files for those of P4. For example, take your p3 nude woman geometry: (RuntimeGeometriesfemaleNudeHifemaleNudeHi.obj) copy, and rename it, and put it where Poser expects to find the P4 version of the figure: (RuntimeGeometriesP4NudeWomanP4NudeWom.obj) Not perfect, not a conversion, but at least the files created for P4 will open in your system.