I started to get Poser 6 last week, but decided to hold off a little longer..don't really feel like learning a whole new set of rules all at once. With ProPack..you can sort of set your pace..just a little more everytime another script is made for it..cheers to the people who write the add ons, and py scripts too :) I wont judge Poser 6 (yet) but I do remember what happened with 5..I stayed away from 5 just by reading what others were saying around here.. I started with Poser 2 when Fractal still had it..gawd what a nightmare..had no clue what that manual was all about..I found it at some department store for like around $90..bought it coz I thought it would be cool to have a program with a naked chick..lol Then I skipped 3 and went to 4..had 4 a long time until I finally added the ProPack..you're right ynsaen. ProPack made all the difference :) I think ProPack is a good stable program..and actually pretty powerful..you all think so too? Glad merchants will still support it, coz I have a feeling in time e-frontier (or whoever has it next) will phase out ProPack.