Heheh, I still have that black and gold box and book and pink-stickered diskettes. I had to walk miles and miles in blistering heat on New Years Eve (96/97 I think) to pick up my copy from the holding depot after I missed the courier delivery - no way am I going to chuck it away after that, it's a badge of honour! I think most people get the box version of software for the printed manual these days. Cheers