And take that idea a step further lmckenzie, since I'm starting in Photoshop/bitmap it's Bitmap>Vector>bitmap. :>/ Somthing new, something used, something borrowed... I wouldn't be at all surprised if this had something to do with it. One things for sure... Make the maps in Photoshop and you get seamless results quick. I find creating multi color items with borders ect. like roses is much easier for me in Illustrator & much easier to adjust lateron & turning it into a trans map, a breeze. If I can just get it seemless I'll be crusing. Thanks Scott