lol @ hulong screaning you made my day ;) just wanted to add something ive come acrossi have a texture in the store named tribal i also have post in my gallery you can look at the bump its pretty awesome but becuase of some problems when i first uploaded it i tried it on standard poser it looked like shit the reason being when i loaded the bump map wich wasnt a bump but a greyscale image at 100percent instead of making a 3d apperance it just washed the colors into flat black and white i adjusted it to 23 percent and it resolved the problem weird how much difference there is in pp and standard it almost seems like poser 4 is the newer version lol