hey...that looks better, jan-carel!!! well, you're another Einstein of the bunch, and you use a piece of paper!!! haha...that's good! i think i will have to stop relying on my eyeballs and maybe use a piece of paper like you said! if i had done that perhaps i would have noticed. :) it's just frustrating to me when i have difficulty noticing things like that. my hearing is going too!!! sigh :) thank you, Jan-Carel for showing me how to determine this in some way other than visually!! and thanks for showing me how to fix it too!!! :) Pssst: never too late! i'm always late! and nah...you're not a bugger! LOL! :)