HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Ok, y'all have had your fun........ Me? I've been rebooting all day as I try in vain to get my ICQ to work--- every time it starts loading, I get "fatal exceptions". I even uninstalled it and re-installed it, still to no avail. If there's one thing ICQ does well, it's crash! grrrrrrrrr.... BTW, that's a mighty cool ox there Varian. ;)