Uh-oh, here we go again... Understood thoughts:- "Poser doesn't work like those $100,000 apps do! Poser must be crap! Why doesn't eF upgrade their software to maximal potential and release it all to us for free?" C'mon folks, get real. Poser has always been buggy and flawed. We all know that. It's also very cheap, compared to the alternatives. Creating bug-free software (in this environment)is virtually impossible unless you have.. a) a release schedule that numbers in decades, b) a very large team of dedicated testers, c) a very large and varied team of programmers to correct the problems detected, d) an enormous budget. So what do you want? A somewhat flawed yet usable prgram for your masterpieces that you can afford? Or a superb, flawless, program which does everything that Poser can do (but better) which you can't afford? Answers on a postcard please.. Cheers, Diolma