Chuckle...Just last week people were debating about possible features for Poser 7 at the DAZ forums. Now we're talking about Poser 8. Golly. Well for the sake of posterity, let me state here and now that Microsoft Poser 9 still doesn't have the full immersive holographic feedback they promised...I'll likely have to upgrade to Poser 9 PRO , SP 4 to get THAT feature....GRRR! Meanwhile my illustration pens are drying out in the Burger King cup I put them in two and a half years ago...