Another question...how would you compare the render time with Poser 6? And are we compairing it to P6 with IBL/AO? I'm still using P4 renderer because I'm too impatient to wait and tie my computer up for 12 hrs for a large render. I like to render around 2200 on the large side for post work or printing. So it just takes too long with Firefly. I just love the way the girl rendered. Just beautiful. At first I thought she was real in a 3d room. Thanks for sharing this!