Oh, I think this discussion will never stop. But in my opinion first you'll have to define what "art" really is. My arts teacher made a painting (if you can call it that) gluing scraps of newspaper onto a canvas and putting a few red brush strokes over it. This was considered art and was shown in a gallery. Well, this is not my thing... The problem may be that in 3D art everyone can show their work in online galleries, even if they are only beginners. I think this is good because this way you can get feedback, but some critics may have a problem with people who are only at the beginning of their craft. So they just say: all 3d art is thrash. But who would say oil paintings aren't art because there are many dilettantes who try to paint? Somebody said: the most merciless critics are those who would like to be an artist but lack the talent. And I think that's true. esha