Same old song Gweb under a different tune. Pascal Doux Lead Eng. of Hexagon re-did the entire VM engine. Didn't have time to impliment everything in this version of the VM but given the fact that now the VM has a new modeling engine things will be much easier to add in the next release. You may consider it rude BUT you don't know how long it takes to re do an modeler. I think your comments are rude. Ringo