Well, why should I have all the fun to myself? ;) Attention all Vue-ers! you can pick up the bull for free at: www.3dcafe.com It's in 3DS format there, a small download. Imports quite easily. Decorate a bull for Mike! I can see it now...post after post of awesome BULL in the forum -- or the gallery. After all, our MOD is certainly worth the fine art treatment too, is he not? And that's no BULL. LOL! :D